Finding Eljer Toilet Parts

If you’ve ever had to look for parts for your Eljer toilet, you know it can sometimes be a challenge.

Eljer Coventry one piece toiletThe easiest way to find the right repair parts for any Eljer toilet is, of course, to break out your original paperwork, see what model you have and order the right parts from our website. Super easy and the parts deliver right to your door!

But what if the dog ate your paperwork, it got lost in the great paper shuffle of ’89, or you simply tossed all that stuff when the warranty ran out? Read on and we’ll walk you through it.

With most brands of toilets, you can usually find the toilet and/or tank model number actually impressed into the porcelain inside the tank. This is the number you need so Eljer or your favorite plumbing supply house can find your toilet’s repair parts. Eljer tank numbers are seven digits long and typically begin with a 141, 151, or 131 (example: 141-1234). Sometimes the number will be repeated on the underside of the tank lid. Unfortunately, we’ve seen a good number of older Eljer toilets where no number was visible.

Okay, so if you don’t have your paperwork, can’t find a model number and all you know is that you have an Eljer toilet, how do you find parts?

By the way, this post isn’t discussing pressure assisted toilets. We do not offer or sell parts for them (with the possible exception of trip levers). This article is discussing “normal” gravity fed Eljer toilets only.

If your toilet is unique-looking, take a look at our photo gallery of Eljer toilets. If you find one that looks just like yours, compare the parts shown on the page to the parts in your tank. If everything matches up, you’re well on your way to fixing your commode!

Eljer 495-0260 fill valveNow, if none of the photos look exactly right, your next step is to take a look at the guts of your toilet (if you haven’t already). While a lot of Eljer toilet parts look the same, Eljer does have a couple of unique fill valves. Just check out the photo to the right! If you see a really weird-looking valve, you’re halfway to identifying the right replacement parts.

If, however, you have “average” looking parts, don’t despair. Armed with a few measurements, you can actually figure out what the OEM parts are if you talk to someone at a knowledgeable supply house (oh, a 5-1/2″ Eljer flush valve, yeah, that’s probably the 495-5514-00).

An example of a "standard" Eljer  fill valveIn other words, finding the right parts without your paperwork is certainly a bit more work, but you can still usually fix your Eljer toilet.

Remember when we mentioned measurements? If you have your old parts, you can just measure them and call your favorite plumbing supply house.

If you don’t have your old parts, you’ll need two main measurements to figure out what will fit in your tank – your overall tank depth and the maximum water depth for your tank. Why? Because the height of your tank determines the maximum height your fill valve can be and the maximum water depth determines how tall your flush valve can be. Makes sense when you think about it, right?

Example of a "standard" style Eljer flush valveTake a ruler or measuring tape and see how tall the inside of your tank is from the bottom of your tank to the top of the porcelain. This is your tank depth and part of how to figure out your fill valve height.

Now measure from the bottom of the tank to the first place water can escape. In many cases, the first place water can escape from is the trip lever. Your replacement flush valve should be about an inch shorter than that measurement. Your replacement fill valve should be at least an inch taller than your flush valve’s overflow tube and shorter than the overall tank depth.

Illustration of measurements needed to find Eljer toilet parts

Oh yeah, you’ll also want to measure the diameter of the holes the fill and flush valves fit into, since you’re there anyway. These are usually the same from toilet to toilet (but not always), so just to be on the safe side, go ahead and record them too. Then call your trusty plumbing supply house for help finding the right toilet guts for your Eljer toilet.

Unfortunately, there are times when all the measurements and information in the world just won’t help. Eljer (like most toilet manufacturers) had a couple of models with guts like nothing else. In fact, we remember the Eljer Silette which used an Indiana Brass fill valve (a 79E, if memory serves) that had the gasket at the top and the tank had a shroud built into the tank that the valve fit right into – that’s right, a built-in, non-replaceable, porcelain toilet part… Unfortunately, that valve was discontinued years ago, and because of the design of the tank, a universal third-party valve simply won’t work. To the best of our knowledge no replacement was ever specified. So if you have one of those and your entire fill valve ever needs to be replaced, you’ll most likely get to throw up your hands and go new toilet shopping.

Your turn: what’s the most difficult toilet to find parts for?

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27 thoughts on “Finding Eljer Toilet Parts

  1. cooper cook

    For how hard it is for people and myself to be able to find toilet parts. I can’t imagine how it must feel like to have to find parts for a plane or a tank or a submarine. While some people are stuck looking for a hopper gate opener I have the privilege to try and find the right cleaner for my toilet so my wife can be happy.

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  2. Mike Seiler

    I am trying to find replacement parts for my Eljer toilet. The numbers stamped on the tank are not like the examples listed above. The numbers, stamped in two places, are 2032 51544. The area giving me the most trouble is the location of the flapper. In your example above, my flapper is actually attached to the screw on the right, and the arm is longer than the “universal” ones I find at the local hardware store. In addition, where the flapper is attached in your diagram, that “part” is part of the toilet tank, and not a removable part. There is also a date stamped on the tank, the year is 1971.

    Thanks,
    Mike

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  3. Ethan Ost

    My new house has a toilet in one of the bathrooms that has me baffled. It’s an Eljer, and the pipe in the tank (flush valve?) is actually a part of the tank itself, rather than a freestanding pipe as shown in your diagram above. It’s got a leak, and the universal flapper I bought doesn’t work, obviously, as it has to be mounted around a pipe that isn’t there. 😦 I don’t really want to replace the whole thing, it’s an otherwise good toilet I guess, I just want it to stop leaking! Help?!

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    1. theplumbingsupplyco Post author

      If your tank has a flush ball that drops directly onto a hole in the bottom of the porcelain and an overflow built into the tank, then you most likely have an Eljer touch flush unit. Or possibly its predecessor which had a flush ball, lift wires and a guide that was threaded through a china post in the inside front of the tank. In both cases, if there’s buildup around where the flush ball sets, it won’t seal right. If the float ball is old and has lost flexibility or is disintegrating, then it needs to be replaced. We offer replacement touch flush assemblies here: http://www.plumbingsupply.com/flappers.html#eljerflappers . If that looks like what used to be there, then you should be good. If it doesn’t, contact our customer service specialists at sales@plumbingsupply.com .

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  4. Steve Catt

    I just replaced my Eljer 79E brass fill valve. Is there a market for the parts in this or should I throw it away?

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    1. theplumbingsupplyco Post author

      Depending on why it was replaced, you might be able to find someone who could use it. If you choose to list it on an online forum or auction site, remember to note that it has been used and what toilet it was used for, as well as why it was replaced. If it was replaced because it wasn’t working right or you couldn’t get replacement parts, we’d recommend to just dispose of it, as it will cause the same problem for the new owner. Since it’s mostly metal, you might be able to recycle it, depending on your area’s programs.

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  5. Shelly

    I’m looking for the Eljer toilet tank lid with part number 151-1500. Your lists of available ones don’t have part numbers, just measurements.

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    1. theplumbingsupplyco Post author

      Not all Eljer toilets had part numbers on their lids (or in their tanks for that matter!), or they could have been worn away over time. We show whatever markings are on the lids, so if you’re not seeing an Eljer lid with the notation you’re looking for, our best suggestion is to send us a template of your lid as we may have another lid that will fit your tank. This is a free service with no obligation to buy. Please see more details here: https://www.plumbingsupply.com/freetoilettanklidssearch.html

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    1. theplumbingsupplyco Post author

      Unfortunately, many of the Emblem toilet seat hinges are either no longer being produced or are extremely hard to come by.
      At some point we carried toilet seat hinges, but those have also been discontinued.

      We do however, offer inexpensive durable plastic toilet seats as well as some wooden toilet seats that should fit your toilet. Simply click on the links below:

      http://www.plumbingsupply.com/eljer-emblem-toilet-seats.html#eljerplastic

      http://www.plumbingsupply.com/eljer-emblem-wood-toilet-seats.html

      Hope this helps and have a great day.

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  6. Ryan Ekstrom

    Ive been trying to find that very rare gasket you use… the ones with the ears… and i have no way to buy online. Ive searched several stores such as home depot and lowes… I live in AZ can anyone help point me in the right direction to an improvement store that will have one

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  7. steve huso

    I have been trying to find a flapper for a eljer that is stamped wd1 it is blue and has a white tip on top, very small flapper

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  8. Bonnie Ornduff

    Have a eljer canterbury toliet 091-1400 or 091-1401 with the flush in the middle of the lid. Need a flush valve and a float valve, It’s a pretty platium color and don’t want to replace.

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    1. PlumbingSupply.com Post author

      Hi Bonnie,

      We understand your dilemma about not wanting to replace such a unique toilet. The flush valve (495-5555) and the float valve (495-0207) for these models of the Canterbury toilet have unfortunately been discontinued. However, if you would like to contact our customer service representatives at sales@plumbingsupply.com, we would be happy to help you find a possible “will fit” replacement.

      Thanks for reading!

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  9. Justin Lovell

    I have an apartment complex over a hundred years old with 58 units, we are doing a near complete renovation. Some things like the toilets we’d like to reuse but some tanks are broken or cracked. They are all Eljer 141-0220, my question is, is there any other current manufacturers tanks and tank lids that would fit this eljer? Thank you very much enjoy the post!

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    1. PlumbingSupply.com Post author

      Hi Justin! While we understand the desire to reuse the toilets, we’re sorry to say you probably aren’t going to find any replacement tanks you’ll be able to use unless you get really lucky at your local salvage yard. This particular Eljer Savoy (141-0220) model most definitely uses more than 1.6 gallons of water per flush, which presents a couple of problems in finding a replacement tank (beyond the age of the toilet).

      Any toilet tanks manufactured since 1994 are going to be designed to work with 1.6 gpf (or less) bowls – meaning two things. First, newer tanks will not release enough water to move things through your older bowls and you will have to flush multiple times and potentially deal with a lot of clogs. While it may seem like all toilet bowls and tanks are the pretty much same (they do look a LOT alike), they really aren’t designed the same way internally. The bowl is designed to flush with a certain amount of water supplied in a certain way by the tank it goes with. Although the toilet is in two pieces, it really is a whole unit that requires both parts to be compatible to work properly. The second issue is that, for most toilets, the bolt holes attaching the tank to the bowl are unique to that toilet model – making tanks and bowls even among the same brand NOT interchangeable in most cases because they simply won’t fit.

      We suggest finding replacement toilets. In the short term, although you’re spending a bit more money, you’re saving quite a lot of time and frustration going on what will probably end up being a wild goose chase trying to find tanks that will fit these older toilets. In the long run, newer toilets could actually save you money since you’ll be using less water and dealing with fewer maintenance issues and tenant complaints. If your budget allows, we recommend TOTO brand toilets. They are truly some of the very best performing toilets out there, require little maintenance, and are super water-efficient. And many of the older models are still available at lower prices if you shop around.

      Now, if you’re just looking for tank lids, we CAN help you out there. We have a huge selection of older model tank lids – and we offer a FREE toilet tank lid search! All you need to do is visit this page and provide us with some dimensional and contact information. Alternatively, you can browse our entire tanklids inventory. And if you ever need repair parts for any of the older Eljer toilets that aren’t needing to be replaced yet, we’ve got them!

      We hope this information helps, and thank you for reading!

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  10. Loras Watters

    I have been trying to replace my fill valve and flaper in my Eljer 4021 toilet. I have been to three after market supplier and tried replacements from each of the suppliers for a 3 inch tank hole but non have worked they all leak because my tank has a 3and 11/16 inch hole. Very frustrated. Need access to the correct parts if they exist or do I have to buy a new tank.

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    1. PlumbingSupply.com Post author

      Hi Loras, we’re sorry you’re having so much trouble finding good parts. If your flush valve is still in good working order, most 3″ flappers should fit if they are installed correctly. To get a good seal with a “will fit” flapper, you’ll need to make sure it attaches to the flush valve the same way the original did. Sometimes if the mounting arms are too high, it will leak.

      If you’re trying to replace the entire flush valve, you may have more trouble. While we have never heard of a toilet having a 3-11/16″ outlet, there are sometimes manufacturing defects or differences in sizing due to the nature of ceramics. If you have a 3″ gasket with a larger lip or bevel that will cover the hole, it should be able to create an adequate seal between your flush valve and the tank if installed properly. However, that is almost an inch difference so it will need to be a very large lip/bevel and unfortunately no manufacturers make 4″ gaskets.

      For more in-depth assistance, we recommend trying the forums at Plbg where you can post pictures and get advice from professional plumbers, or contacting our customer service team at sales@plumbingsupply.com with measurement photos and more information so they can try to help you find a part that will work. Thank you for reading!

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  11. Jill Stacy

    I’m in need of a new toilet seat for an Eljer toilet. It looks like the photo of the Patriot model & is # 141-2120 as printed in the tank. After looking at the measurement drawing for a round front seat I discovered what the problem was. The norm for the 2 holes to bolt the seat in place is 5 1/2″. Our 2 holes are at 5 3/4″ so anything I’ve looked at will not fit. Any suggestions would be welcome before I remove all the metal hardware & start sanding the old paint off! Thanks for your help, Jill

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